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John de Graaf - 16/11/2010 00:00:00
   
RE: Balustrade Design
FYI AS/NZS1170.1 is similar to BS6399:Part 1, but includes an additional concentrated load case of 0.6 kN to be applied at the top edge/handrail acting inward, outward or downward, positioned for the worst effect. The implication is that the other design loads are outward only.

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Mr Christopher Achilles - 16/11/2010 00:00:00
   
RE: Balustrade Design
Rob Thanks for the info much appreciated. Nice to get some other views on this.

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Mr Christopher Achilles - 16/11/2010 00:00:00
   
RE: Balustrade Design
John Thanks for the info. BS6399 does have a similar clasue for vertical load to be considered to act at the same time as the horizontal. 1 kn point load or 0.6kN/m UDL (Note 10 - Page 7). Wonder how many people consider this on light handrails systems?

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Mr Andrew Allan - 13/12/2010 00:00:00
   
RE: Balustrade Design
Christopher Sorry - have been moving house and office so have neglected these pages of late. I've come across this before many times, and we fall back on the basic rule of Part A - structures should be capable of resisting loads they are likely to be subjected to. This sometimes needs an assessment from first principles in the absence of codified guidance. In this case we would look at the amount of space behind the balustrade and the nature of that space, and then adopt a suitable inward load. Rob Thomson's assessment seems eminently sensible for most circumstances. We would tend to be a bit more cautious where a public access space had a deep 'fetch' where a rowdy crowd might be envisaged.

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Mr Christopher Achilles - 13/12/2010 00:00:00
   
RE: Balustrade Design
Hi Andrew Thanks for the reply. Our main handrail supplier is currently talking to a member of the 6399 code committee with a view to getting somekind of rules for inward loading included within the code. Hopefully an ammendment will be added in the not too distant future. 50% may be a good figure, we will wait and see what they come up with? Regards Chris

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DB - 14/12/2010 00:00:00
   
RE: Balustrade Design
Chris - If you wait until until BS 6399 gets updated you might be waiting a while: my understanding is that now the Eurocodes have been published they supersede all the British Standards and, as such, BSI won't be updating them any further.

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Mr Robert Thomson - 14/12/2010 00:00:00
   
RE: Balustrade Design
You're right that BS6399 will not be updated but the National Annex could well be, and it is the same committee responsible. The NA effectively changes all the balustrade loads back to what it was in BS6399. The main differences are that the eurocode doesn't include loads on the infill or the 1kN/0.6kN/m vertical load, and the load is applied at the height of the barrier rather than 1.1m.

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Mr Christopher Achilles - 14/12/2010 00:00:00
   
RE: Balustrade Design
You are correct Andrew I'll be waiting till hell freezes over for an ammendment to 6399 but hopefully it will be added to the Eurocode National Annex as Robert says. RIP BS6399 & 5950 you will be missed!

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Nigel Higgins - 04/03/2013 22:07:57
   
RE: Balustrade Design
Hi there, I was hoping someone could point me in the right direction. BS6180 2011, says that the datum level for calculating balustrade loading is always taken at 1100mm irrespective of the balustrade height, which I understand on a standard staircase. The balustrade must also not deflect more than 25mm when the design load is applied.
However, if my balustrade was 1800mm high (it's acting as a privacy screen) above FFL, do I still need to use 1100mm for the design load? Surely this would mean at 1800mm height that balustrade would be deflecting in excess of the allowed 25mm?
Im trying to clarify this with British standards, but m not sure who to contact.
Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks

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Christopher Achilles - 04/03/2013 23:17:07
   
RE: Balustrade Design
I would use the load applied at 1.1m above datum and restrict deflection to 25mm at 1.1m up. I would also check it out for the minimum uniform UDL loading that needs to be applied to the panel. If it is external and clad then I would check it out for wind loads. If it is internal then I would probably consider half wind load (+0.2 Cp one side and -0.3 Cp to the other). It is prudent to consider the load to act both inward and outward as the code is not clear on the exact direction. If you combine wind and imposed then I think a reduced safety factor would be resonable say 1.2IL + 50% wind or what ever seems realistic. Think this is going to be down to your own judgement this one.

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